It broke the rules, as well as Sigismund's winning streak. It broke the rules, as well as Sigismund's winning streak. For Man to truly flourish he must be willing to abandon the ever shrinking island of such petty 'truth' and surrender himself to the reality of that which is beyond. But if I remember correctly he was still in one piece (albeit dead), so most likely he was stabbed or bludgeoned. Kharn is literally called the Betrayer because he killed his brothers and was a key reason for why the World Eaters disbanded into small warbands. They were forced to face the consequences of their failings, of their sins, and their secrets, and they came out on top. He'd beaten Lucius in a no-holds-barred fight, but lost in a full duel. It's pretty clearly just a last gesture of defiance. Before he could press on, Rann, having despatched his own opponent, looked down at it too. · Famously Abaddon fought Sigismund. Fulgrim and Ferrus' titanic battle resulting in Ferrus's death. #6. This thread is archived. . He finished the duel, as hundreds of warriors from both Legions looked on, by headbutting the Templar and disqualifying himself. Yeah uh. 6. Peace is a vain wish. Sevatar is a close second with people like Kharn, Abaddon and Corswain all coming somewhere after those two. I, Cato Sicarius, am I, Cato Sicarius, and I, Cato Sicarius, approve of this attempt to praise I, Cato Sicarius, for certainly without a doubt I, Cato Sicarius am the most awesome character in 40k. Round 2: Typhus of the Death Guard. They can probably get a few licks in sure, cocky spacemarines aren’t new, but fuck it’s gonna suck badly. Staying and hoping that Horus would show up or going and fighting fighting Fulgrim. Lucius would be worfed - as he was before, many times - because he is basically immortal. · Famously Abaddon fought Sigismund. at the same time. In Chosen of Khorne by Anthony Reynolds, Kharn duels against a Blood Angel berserker fallen to Khorne who goes by the name of 'Flesh Tearer,' Nassir Amit's unofficial nickname among the World Eaters. Some are bigger, some are. On the other hand, presenting new characters with higher roles means A. Just to put to bed the notion that Siggy and the Templars aren't. Sigismund was kharn's friend if not superior in dueling. Now! Khârn dies in the Siege and is brought back later by Khorne, or so the rumor goes. The subplots continue move systematically to the denouement we have all been waiting for since the beginning of the Horus Heresy. Get her in a position where she can't dodge. He hit again, slamming with the crown of the mace to the grip of Sigismund’s sword. Malcador, all of the Iron Warrior warsmiths, Sigismund, Rann, Kharn, Abbadon, Typhus and Synderman must live. (Even though the book makes it clear how it happened: 1. Kharn was able to keep up with an enraged Angron, a primarch to whom hypersonic bolts seem to move in slow motion. CryptoHonourable Mention: Roboute Guilliman vs Fulgrim. The Blood God drinks deep. ‘A captain,’ he noted, impressed. fought during the siege of terra and destoyed every chaos champion eho fought against, but Kharn. Delvarus was the undisputed single combat champion of the World Eaters. ‘No idea,’ he said. Gabriel Seth vs Kharn would be a nice little brawl to see too. Thus there is only one momentary chance. ‘Keep moving. This is a quieter moment, but it was very emotional for me. If only Sigismund had actually fought Abaddon properly before he was over. And his first name! Kharne means "betrayer" in another language (forgot which one LOL) so his name is literally "Betrayer the Betrayer. Some absolutely incredible moments. Sigismund was only saved thanks to Rogal Dorn, who swatted away the berserk Kharn like an insect. Kharn would display a cold fury and calmness throughout his duel with Sigismund, never attacking him until the very end since he accepted whatever came out of the duel. The fight is unly prolonged by the saving throw and the starting distance. He's no Sigismund and I hope people don't think that he is. well. The Emperor against Horus is at least the most important duel in the entire history of 40k. In Primarch vs Primarch fights, others get distracted by their own doubts or anger or even fear. Reply reply [deleted] • 'I always hated you, Xaphen. Im thinking ADB will write Sanguinius holding the Eternity Gate against chaos he is also rumored to battle Daemon Angron there or before horus and Abnett will write the last with the duel between Horus and the Emperor or vice versa. Thanks for the. Abbadon Round 4: Aximand vs. An epic duel. Nov 1, 2021. Sigismund is good and him cutting down Kharn in abject silence was amazing. Khârn’s blade slid past. conclusion to the White Scars arc during the Heresy as well as a flowering of what becomes the Imperium in the 40K universe: the priesthood, the Black Templars,. Context: Abbadons assault on the Saturnine Wall ends in callosal failure. Sigismund struck the first blow, slicing away a chunk of flesh from Kharn. Siguismund during the Heresy, having just donned the Armour of Faith and armed with the Black Sword . Erebus just teleports away with his athame before Kharn finishes the job. After slaying the Icon of Sin the Doomslayer faces off against Khorne best champion, Kharn the Betrayer. Sigismund felt as if the Investiary’s vast circumference had closed to a tight circle around him. On the Kharn fight, you're correct, he wasn't really taking the duelling pits seriously yet and didn't have Gorechild. that are all connected in the 40k universe. " James Workshop strikes again. Erebus's fencing is characterized as defensive, mechanical and precise. I'd be more interested in Sigismund vs Kharn, or Lucius vs Kharn first. Kharn. ‘I think you’re wrong, ’ Loken said. Every twitch of the White Scar's pale armour, every breath between his sharpened teeth, every raindrop upon the silver smile of the guan dao blade- Sigismund. 33 times, wounding 1. Berserkers and Bloodletters will tear things up when they charge, but once the enemy starts shooting at them, they’ll die pretty quick. ‘You are a wraith,’ said the throne-bound huntress. Kharn mops the floor with Lucius. One of the things I notice is that in many Legions, there is a clear next in command/confidant that, while secondary to the Primarch, is clearly head and shoulders above his fellows in the Legion- or at least, a clear finest warrior, like Corswain, whose reputation is known throughout the Legions. Starting range is 50 meters. As in, didn’t even get to put up a fight. Kharn and Sigismund fought in the pits together, they were as close as it's possible for Marines from separate Sigismund and Delvarus of the Triarii were the fighting pair. Later Kharn and Angron both led a massive World Eaters assault on the Eternity Wall Spaceport. Sigismund can toy with veterans, chump Captains, and best the Champion of Khorne. Perhaps Delvarus is a better choice. Sigismund instead chose to help his men retreat. 40K AFTER GETTING STABBED THROUGH THE CHEST, Kharn survives getting blasted by some kind of heavy weapon The Red Path. The descent from Kharn and Sigismund to Kargos and Amit reflects the descent in general from 30k to 40k. This is the new lore version of that famous event, which doubles as the narrative transition point from 30k to 40k. You could hand wave it as being a master crafted, rapid fire plasma weapon in 40k, I think that would be fair. Sanguinius: Tens of thousands. Sigismund glanced down at his arm. Droofus. Seems thematically out of place, but could have an interesting hunters/hunted vibe where Ahriman is constantly misleading and avoiding Sigismund so he can contribute to the Siege. 82 5 New from $36. ago. Very soon, there would only be one. It's the same thing, given that Mortarion is a Daemon Prince. For the World Eaters possibly Kharn. Reply. It would be one of the most epic moments in 40k for me. The legionary opposite him was the only thing that was real now. You've also got I, Captain Cato Sicarius!Due to the Warp laughing in the face of causality, this occurs instead of scenario number one. Everyone respected him, and Abaddon more than most. Well it. Beneath the primarchs there has perhaps never been a more skilled warrior in combat. During the Council of Nikea Sanguinius assigned him to guard his Private Quarters, while the other Captains brought attended the Council. Once he sinks into this faith’s embrace, he becomes simultaneously superlative and ghastly. Round 1: Kharn should be able to do it. Just got it today. Worse, he saw a bored indulgence. Killing Sigismund would help the Traitors cause greatly. ago. The Custodes are the best of humanity and the Harlequins are the best of the Eldar. The World Eater caught the descending strike between his paired blades, scissoring past the sword, and slashed out again. I can understand why Dorn is unhappy with Sigismund, but Sigismund is literally his best Space Marine. Rogal Dorn: Primarch of the Imperial Fists. Fulgrim exclaimed. He decides to take his forces (sans 500 good men) to reinforce the defense of the Saturnine Wall. . Sigismund goes into the fight confident that he will beat Kharn, but like 2 seconds in he realizes he's fucked and has no chance. Sigismund V Kharn!!Let me know what you think, and I'd love some feedback on the new. The. Kharn has only gotten better since that duel. Every single one of the Siege of Terra series is good to great. Sigismund beat him in I think 7 seconds. 8 1 1 comment Best Add a Comment Radota2 • 4 yr. Sigismund had dueling abilities second to none (I'd say Kharn was a better fighter, but in pure 1 on 1 Siggy was top) and was so down in the depths of his cold rage and anger he was Kharns equal, and better. Standard. ‘That is not the destiny I have decreed for. The Primarchs get politically married in a less grimdark AU fix-it where the Crusade is stopped quite early on when a slight change in route brings the Dark Angels into the territory of the United Federation, a conglomerate of powerful alien civilisations. They represent them. A couple things. Sigismund The Eternal Crusader by John French. Every conversation between Dorn and Sigismund is so hostile from Dorn's perspective. He has lost a duel before since he didn't win a Feast of Blades. Kharn and Sigismund fought in the pits together, they were as close as it's possible for Marines from separate Sigismund and Delvarus of the Triarii were the fighting pair. Rogal Dorn, known as " The Vigilant ," the " Praetorian of Terra " and the " Unyielding One ," and to his gene-sons by the "wall-name" of " Defiance ," was the primarch of the Imperial Fists Space Marine Legion and one of the greatest heroes in the history of the Imperium of Man . As the world faced the machinations of Chaos, a Psyker emerged with enough power to act as a beacon to allow for contact with the greater Imperium despite the loss. '. This fight literally ends in less than 5 second. As a gene-breed super solider, in power armour and armed with gore child and a plasma pistol Kharn would tear Kenshiro apart. Angron. The World Eater caught the descending strike between his paired blades, scissoring past the sword, and slashed out again. Sigismund tied the chains of his sword to his wrist. im-blanking • 8 mo. The battle of the Pit of Maledictus was the moment of truth for the Blood Ravens chapter. "Born on Terra and raised to the Legiones Astartes as the Great Crusade was at its height, he ascended in rank and renown thanks to a simple fact: he was a warrior of unparalleled lethality and ability. Some through sheer faith. Judging by his reaction to the memory, I'm guessing it didn't end well for Lucius. 40k Astartes = More experience generally, more training from what I've seen, more role specializations, built around shock assault and decapitation strikes. 11. CryptoAbaddon has fought Kharn to a standstill, he's gotten his ass handed to him by Eldrad, he held the upper hand against Celestine, beat a (weaker) clone of Horus, and has fought off several greater demons of different gods IIRC. Khârn had parried the last blow. Consider supporting me on PATREON:JOIN US on DISCORD - excerpt from the novel "Warhawk". Kharn later takes part in the Shadow Crusade, forming a friendship with Word Bearer Captain Argel Tal. The doom slayer (DOOM) vs kharn the betrayer (40k) Doomslayer would have issues with a standard Marine let alone Kharn, champion of Khorne. We've seen him fight Jubal Khan. Kharn lead on, carving a path with no regards to foe or ally in his way, gorechild ran with the energy of the living and exhaled steamed blood. Kharn noticed that something changed in Sigismund. It's implied that Sigismund dueled Lucius on Terra. Better scaling might be with Sanguinius, whom Angron fights, who sees laser hanging frozen in mid air. Corswain against Sevatar was like a draw. How we would quantify how being old affects Sigismund beyond being slowed down is again almost impossible to answer. The women in 40k may be one dimensional or underrepresented, but the women 30k are definitely not and black library also. 4. To rise and fight beings such as Kharn he must embrace what Keeler told him and become the Emperor's champion. Was hardly the epic GK vs Angron fight, or a Sigismund vs Kharn or anything like that. He ripped the blade out sideways, erupting from its chest. He saw neither. Kharn is a monster, and in a real fight Sigismund wouldn't be walking away clean. Xarl vs that Novamarine champion. Kharn would not back down and even if he was knocked on to the ground and hear the words "Get up", he would calmly grab his weapons back and charge again, displaying the iconic. Sigismund realises that while he is the best of all the legionaries in battle, he isn't fighting a legionary. Pre-heresy it would have been Kharn but mortally wounded, but 40k it will always go to. Sigismund First Highmarshal and Emperors Champion vs Kharn the BetrayerChampion of KhorneSong: beware spoilers for Warhammer 30k's Siege of…On top of that, if we include Sigismund, Kharn, or Abaddon into the Spehs Mehreen mix, they have the close quarters feats to beat Raiden with combat knives. ‘ How innocent you are, ’ Sigismund mocked, ‘ and I thought the Luna Wolves were supposed to be the most aggressive of us all. Kharn is a bad guy. Un duel s'engagea alors entre les deux hommes et Sigismund fut tué. He's the Honey Badger of 40k and has made a career of finding the toughest fights and carving through them. And in a final contest of skill, though it was probably hard fought, Kharn would have been found wanting. They're the perfect opponents, both utterly convinced they're right, both exemplars of their legion and both know that. TheSentientDust. He. Sigismund had plenty of time tp practice vs SMs. Dorn steps in when Sigismund fights Fulgrim. Sigismund. He figures out that Sigismund had been holding back the entire time. During the Siege of Terra, Rogal Dorneasilypimp-slapped a raging Kharn away something like twenty meters, and then was murdering dozens of elite III Legionnaiers including some of the most powerful Khakaphony ever seen. Disclaimer: Due to how Copyright works on YouTube, the narration will dissect what happens within the excerpts to put it clearly within the ‘Fair Use’ bracke. No chance. Ahriman/Sigismund I wouldn't have thought of. The counter is presented as Kharn's form of prayer, and also a tool to keep himself sane (for some definition of sane). It would be like saying Gabriel Seth etc are superior to Kharn. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. A thought has occured to me about Sigismund being 'old' and getting 'beaten' by Abaddon. Magnus is still horrifically powerful, and Kharn is still a horrifically good fighter; the Emperor is just in a league of his own, and Lucius has been doing nothing but dueling (and educational murder porn. ‘Brother Loken, I have heard much about you, all of it good. Get her in a position where she can't dodge. . The general rules of thumb are also going to hold true despite advances in SM armor. Kharn noticed that something changed in Sigismund. The Custodes is 9 millennia old. If you write a book about Kharn, I would be disappointed if Kharn wasn't an untouchable badass. Jubal died against Abbadon. 9339 times and causing 1. Well, Kaneki has stronger. It's Killing Traitors Time, and nothing else matters. Sigismund The Eternal Crusader by John French. Kaneki has City Block+ Level AP and Durability, Hypersonic level speed, and incredible regeneration ability too. He has 4 attacks, so that makes 0. Tal even proved able to calm Kharn, which led to Erebus becoming worried that his destiny as the Betrayer would be foiled. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Predalienator • Adeptus Custodes •. With the rumours of a massive World Eaters release coming next year, I've been doing a lil' bit of reading before writing up my homebrew renegade warband. Sigismund really is in a tier above normal space marines. Who wins? Round 1: Raldoron vs. One turned traitor, the other a loyal son of the emperor. There he stood. Examples are like Azreal vs. As if he is already dead. Mainly involving the primarchs We know that Sanguinius spanks Ka'bandha. Okay, this one is from after the Horus Heresy, and is detailed in Dark Imperium by Guy Haley, but it’s still awesome. from $31. Sigismund. Sigismund faced defeat, but was saved by Dorn himself. 40k Gets thrown hard enough to crush two Space Marines to death, then proceeds to trade blows with Abaddon The Red Path. I would be willing to bet money on ADB's book ending with the Emperor's strikeforce being assembled though. Abaddon refused to allow Kharn to die and led a counterattack to save the World Eater, forcing Layak to intervene in order to save the future Warmaster of Chaos from the Primarch's wrath. . Against a primarch, no chance. A tale as old as time,. If Kharn can actually move faster than Sigismund can see, with much greater strength too, then yeah I wouldn’t expect Sigismund to win without some sort of interference or massive mistake by Kharn. 30k is dead. . Nevertheless, when it came down to it, it was the World Eaters who breached the walls of the Imperial Palace first. Sigismund had lost a bit of his speed to age but was still a monster. Second only to the World Eaters Daemon Primarch Angron in. From the very start when Dan Abnett gave him the title drop. Sigismund vs Khârn The whole failed assault was a feint to infiltrate Iron Warriors into the Palace. So yeah. A moment of confusion. ‘But you do dream,’ he pressed. Oll Piers against Angron. Erda was pretty much hamfisted into the siege of terra with no hint of her existence beforehand. Surviving – Khorne doesn’t care where the blood and skulls come from, and it shows in his units. It's easy to defeat Lelith Heperax, you just need a lot of prayers and preferably from psykers. Winners fight winners until there's a champ. Sigismund, First Captain. Kharn is among those fighting on the highest level and spots Sigismund. Nassir Amit: No Fraks were given. Regardless the whole thing is kind of moot since the whole scene was likely to set up how badass Kharn is as a murderblender while highlighting the martyrdom and faith powered resurrection abilities of Celestine (and considering Celestine was nuked in her original lore in C: WH, I'm going to say that being hacked up by Kharn isn't the most. Kharn godstomps Sicarius. Both fights would hold way more weight. yeah there's a few other "semi" wins in there: Kroeger vs Rann, Kharn vs Sigismund I, Aximand attacking a worn down Sigismund the first time, but they all end up interrupted before the killing blow (though the Fists guy that i can't remember did die for his intervention). The Iron Warriors were beasts at melee. IF Abbadon was to kill Sigismund, I'm not sure how that's pooping on him or the Black Templars or the Imperial Fists. . He currently leads his own World Eaters warband called the Butcherhorde. The Sons of Dorb suffer PTSD when they hear the Betrayer is on the same planet as they are and they want to run away. He felt the impact, and struck twice more before the clang of the first strike had faded. <br> <br>What could be worse than that? What death is more absolute than this? What disappointment, what despair can be. Sigismund struck the first blow, slicing away a chunk of flesh from Kharn. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Warhawk (The Horus Heresy: Siege of Terra Book 6) at Amazon. And we di. Khârn's personal kill-counter has reached 2,460 by the time they have reached the inner sanctum of the cultist temple (which is a still a far cry from his personal. Sigismund really is in a tier above normal space marines. ‘No idea,’ he said. but whats not there is that kharn gets cut down kharn tries to get eye contact with his old friend but hes cold and. Kharn and Sigismund stood tall as bone white and charcoal blue was caked and covered in crimson gore. So it is that we get to the purity of 40K’s endless war, in which both sides are equally nihilistic. In 40k they have a narrative that’s been created in order to maintain the status quo that was written decades ago before it became a higher work of fiction. Sevatar is a close second with people like Kharn, Abaddon and Corswain all coming somewhere after those two. He is faster than. Kharn the Betrayer vs. Holy Terra 40 feet apart. ’ ‘Do you dream of Sigismund?’ The unconquerable battlements are. They showed a preview of the two about to duke it out. e. It was presented as a one sided massacre where Kharn walks up, smashes her sword out of her hands, rips her wings out of her back and then decapitates her. The Avatar of Khaine strides out only to trip on a stone, fall over and explode into blobs of lava. Better if the two don't cross paths. Dante: Tens of thousands. Best contenders at the moment would be Logan Grimnar of the Space Wolves (moves so fast it legitimately pushed terminator armor to the brink, lolfuckyou'd a GRAND MASTER of the Grey Knights before he could even draw his sword and dumpsters numerous others without even taking a scratch, managed to wound Magnus the fucking Red in Warzone. I'm really looking forward to Sanguinius vs. Gabriel Seth vs. A key image of 40k is of the Imperium as a candle flickering in a vast darkness. Nassir Amit fought kharn to a standstill in a duel to the death before the herecy as none of them where able to get a killingblow. Which is a take down on Sigismund ethos. A tale as old as time, The Beast and The knight. Kharn would display a cold fury and calmness throughout his duel with Sigismund, never attacking him until the very end since he accepted whatever came out of the duel. Kyril Sindermann was a notable Iterator of the burgeoning Imperium of Man during the Great Crusade, whose gifts as a skilled orator and master of rhetoric were widely known throughout the galaxy during the late 30th and early 31st Millennia. His last name is “The Betrayer” for godsake. Context: Erebus vowed to the crowd, facing the applause of fists thudding against bare chest. Nonbinary Character. His personal heraldry, consisting of black and white, became the official colors of. Sigismund was a loyalist hero during the Horus Heresy, and for his deeds was knighted as the first Emperor’s Champion. The icon of the Inquisition. He is fighting a champion of the Dark Gods. In the end, the guilt of not telling him outweighed the guilt of keeping it a secret. Not good enough against Kharn to. In fact he died at Lion's Gate after killing 1 million marines, having a Land Raider tear his chest open and dualing Loken and Sigismund but the Blood God. Remember when Sigismund and Kharn were buddies? John. If Kharn can withstand a single BFG tracer or a direct hit the debate ends because Kharn defeats DS again Doom Eternal Saving throw is not as good as 2016. Pretty sure Sigismund vs Kharn is going to happen in Solar War. ago. The powers of Khorne swell him to the point where his muscles are bursting out of his power armor. That's not to say Corswain couldn't win under the right circumstances but in an even fight Sigismund beats any other astartes. ago. It was during their frequent duels in the cages of the World Eaters'. Khârn’s rage was deeper than he had ever allowed it to be before. Never. 92 unsaved wound inflicted per turn. So beware spoilers for Warhammer 30k's Siege of Terra: Warhawk! Ok that should be enough to bury this so no one sees it at a quick glance, at least i hope so. On an unnamed Daemon World, Khârn the Betrayer leads an outnumbered unit of Khorne Berzerkers into combat with Slaaneshi cultists, slaughtering them left and right. Not because of any moral highroad, or righteousness, but because they're just stronger. 79 votes, 77 comments. I get it’s Kharn, the epitome of the Worldeaters, but she’s literally the best they had. ago. Death Company Dreadnought. Few mortals have piled as many skulls at the base of Khorne’s brazen throne as Warhammer 40k character Khârn the Betrayer. . Sigismund vs Kharn. The quad was washed with blood. I don't think she ever so much as got a hit in. Sgismund: Probably tens of thousands. Instead, Abaddon took in a breath and exhaled slowly. Above Custodes tier, the two lore examples we have of non-primarch Vs Primarch are two training duels; Valdor Vs Horus, and Sigismund Vs. Spoiler. Sigismund beat him in I think 7 seconds. Kharn and Typhus attack first, followed by Lucius and Ahriman. Sigismund met the cut with the flat of his sword, point down, guard high. Duster_316 said: Because Calgar, by his own admission, fucked up and let Swarmlord bait him into a trap by pissing him off, which is fairly in keeping with Calgar's angry man status. There are only so many ways that you can swing a sword and only a few ways that are effective vs armor. The Emperor has returned to Terra while Horus remains among the stars to complete the unification of humanity. THE STORY. For 5 million years, in a war fought beyond the scale of the 30k-40k setting, Szarekh the silent king of the necron was whoopin’ eldar, krork, old one, and other asses with direct and complete control over the entirety of his necron citizenry. Of course Celestine revives so she'll just get back up eventually but. That's not to say Corswain couldn't win under the right circumstances but in an even fight Sigismund beats any other astartes. In fact, this is exactly what Typhus says:Great Crusade era Kharn gets most screen time in audios Butcher's Nails and Kharn: The Eightfold Path, he is also one of the protagonists in the novel Betrayer. If anyone is the 40k Sigismund, its Cadulon's pupil/successor, Hervald Strom. redhatter192 • 5 yr. There are similar asteroid feats in 40k, most notably Obyron who I very much doubt could take Kharn down without a serious fight. Lucius Round 3: Kharn vs. ‘Your pretty wall is broken, Rogal!’. Sigismund had lost a bit of his speed to age but was still a monster. Kharn's frenzy versus Sigismund artful discipline. Things look bleak… until Jaghatai Khan rides out with his Legion. During his rampage he runs into Kharn. Forces from both sides flock towards where he is fighting. Speed might not be that much. It is heavily speculated that Sigismund and Kharn will fight again during the SoT, this time Kharn gets killed/injured. And that can't happen given his busy schedule during the Siege. Context: Sigismund has decided that he simply doesn't give a fuck anymore. No-Confidence-9191 • 27 min. A subreddit for the lore and stories encompassing the dark future of the Warhammer…Sigismund is consistently portrayed as the best swordsman in the legions during 30k. zawarudo88 • 4 yr. It's like saying the Emperor was a stronger psyker than Magnus. The reason why I am posting this excerpt is that I wanted to show one of the rare moments in which Abbadon actually acts like. Now this will be a paradox, as from the novel Warhawk, Siggy literally offed manly Kharn, Khorne's Champion and felt nothing. yeah there's a few other "semi" wins in there: Kroeger vs Rann, Kharn vs Sigismund I, Aximand attacking a worn down Sigismund the first time, but they all end up interrupted before the killing blow (though the Fists guy that i can't remember did die for his intervention). Emperor of Mankind; Primarchs; Space Marine Legions; Codex Astartes; Deathwatch; List of Space Marine Chapters; Space Marine Important LinksI'm posting this excerpt because most of the discussion around Warhawk has centered around Kharn vs. Unfortunately that is kind of a 40k thing. If the Custodian did, very much so Garro managed to beat a Custode in a duel because of that and Siggy would stomp Garro. He turned as the blow came at him and went in close, guard high as he read the spin of Sevatar’s weapon and the two blades rang against each other. You are the machine-spirit’s echo of what once was, given false life along with the other ghosts that walk the halls of my ship.